This horse here he’s supposed to be a commercial horse and doing its job. I don’t know, the woman’s had it a few months so I don’t know, its not for me to judge anybody else, I’m merely saying he’s a commercial horse. You open the door and the first thing he’ll do is always turn his quarters towards you. So when you go in see this? “Don’t touch me, leave me alone” “I’m not doing that” His advantage is he’s in a stable; we’ve just put him in a stable to show you. So what the lady’s been doing if you don’t mind she keeps them in stables so to get him she feeds him over the door, then puts a leadrope on him and does what she’s got to do, lead him out, muck him out, do whatever she’s got to do. See this? That’s threatening That’s a threatening attitude, that shaking the head from side to side, ears back Open the thing look and he comes straight round. I haven’t got any food, I’ve not come in here to feed him or to bribe him. He won’t kick me because he’s been disciplined a bit but he’s not been here long enough for me to discipline it out of him. Im just going to go out of sight of this stable, just going to take a few steps back and the lass is just going to come to the door. This little lass is not stupid she’s been here with me, you’ll see her on the films she’s only spent 15 days with me so far, she’ll do 20 in all on her work experience she’s already driving pairs, unicorns,
singles all the different stages of training with all the horses we’ve got in at the moment. So we’ll just step back over here I’m not going to let her go in the stable, or let the door shut, I don’t want to put her in danger but this is supposed to be a commercial horse. S: He thought I had some food. B: See this now? Because he thinks you’ve got food, the ears, the warning, the ears back where he’s been used to being fed. Now we’ll prove what we say, this is what the lady’s done. Now take the bucket to the door Oh, nice friendly horse now! No trouble at all. You can get hold of him and catch him but look at him, look, look at the attitude of the horse. Look at his ears – he’ll pull back in a minute
when he knows there’s no bucket to have. He might nip and bite. And this is an ill-mannered horse in my opinion. Some people would tolerate that and say that’s fine but see the ears, the mouth going and you can say well you’re tormenting him because we just brought a bucket well if you’ve got to take a horse out the stabe and you need a bucket of food to get him to the door to clip a leadrope on so that you can get in the stable, that’s diabolically stupid with any horse let alone one that you want to use for commercial work. If you’ve got to feed it or it turns its quarters to you that’s highly dangerous. Now one day I promise you, I don’t want it to happen, but that’ll kick somebody. Now if it happens to be you’ve just got your head down like this, you’ve got your food there and he isn’t quite ready, open the door and he’d kick you straight in the head. He behaves exactly like a stallion, you see him up here trying to smell the horse next door He’s not a rig but he behaves that way. What it is he’s too full of himself, got too much confidence in himself. With me, he’s not so keen. “You do…” But see, look now see the attitude? And that’s with me. See what he’s like with the little girl, worse. And with the owner, if she’s got to feed him to get him out the stable its just ridiculous. That is not… these horses are not safe for those two reasons. They’ve come here for me to do the best I can with, which I’ve done in the time I’ve been allocated. That’s it, that’s all I can say. “You do” “Stand still” But all the time he can push the boundaries ears back, turn his arse towards you, threatening you, that’s it. Exactly the same as you’d see behaviour in a field of horses. One will put his ears back, turn his arse “Keep away from me I’m eating this hay you stay away” He thinks he’s in charge but if this horse the size of him, well a shetland pony would hurt you but if he kicked you by christ he’d kill you. Catch you right, you’re dead. But he’s not a bad horse really but he’s been allowed to have this attitude, look. You want to learn to read horses, if you can read a horse and understand, watch horses in a field and learn it’s the best encyclopaedia you’ll ever get on the behaviour of horses. The point I’m trying to make, you’re doing a wedding, that’s what this lady does is weddings. So you go to a location and you put your horses
together – that might be in a quite often is in a public space wherever you can do it is what you’d do. So what if you’re in a public space, you bring the horse off the lorry, tie him up on the side and he won’t tolerate people behind him, whilst you’re getting the harness or doing something, you’ve got your back turned for a second and you get somebody come up behind and he kicks them, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Are you going to claim off the insurance? And that’s why insurance costs so much money these days and why they’re going to stop driving on the road one day because people… the standards are falling all the time. The old horsemen and people that knew what they were doing are not around anymore. And the standards are dropping. It’s no different today; the horse hasn’t changed, its the people that have changed and haven’t got the ability or the know-how anymore. I’m not saying I’m the best man in the world with a horse and I’m not lecturing anybody, I’m just saying unless we keep these standards they’ll stop this, driving. I keep saying this: discipline in this day and age is a dirty word Discipline is nothing to do with
smacking, hitting with a piece of that blue plastic pipe I’ve seen them hit with, kicking them, beating them – it’s nothing to do with that. Its far from that, its a million miles from that – that’s not discipline, that’s cruelty. What you need to do is say to a horse “that is your place, that is what I want you to do and you will do it” Never ask the horse to do more than a horse can do which is ridiculous ask what the horse can do. But if I’m a liar, if I’ve got it wrong, if I don’t know what I’m talking about how do all my horses do what they do on the films you see, 150 films on Youtube? People all over the world asking me would I go out there, break horses, there’ll always be a place for you we’ll pay all your flights and all that, constantly all the time, I’ll show you the emails. I’m not interested. I’m not interested in people I’m interested in horses and them having a good start and being happy in what they do. But I don’t smack him, I stand there until he does it and then he’s happy because he knows his place like any horse knows his place in the herd. Its not hard, its not rocket science, I’m not a genius with horses or any nonsense like that – anybody can do it but look at it from the right way. There’s always hierachy. I’ve got to be at the top so they do what I ask them to do you haven’t got to hit them, kick them or hurt them but you’ve got to be brave enough to do it and the standards are falling all the time. People say, I heard it said “Breaking their spirit” – its nothing to do with breaking their spirit I want my horses to have as much spirit as they can, as much as they want but that wants to be tempered and controlled. When you see my horses going down the road, their ears are pricked, their knees are up, they’re enjoying it, going out, doing their job. I don’t hit them you never see me use a whip. I might have one on there occasionally to tap one horse up but 90% of the time I don’t use a whip and I drive them in a piece of soft rubber. I’ve not got them down on the bit pulling their heads off – they’re doing what I say not because I can stop them with a ig lump of metal but because I ask them to. That’s discipline.