The Truth about the Amish

The Truth about the Amish

I’ve always heard the Amish don’t like
to be photographed or video’d because they believe uh it’s stealing their soul. ok…another myth out there! hi everybody whats up it’s
Kelly again welcome back to my channel and I am sitting here with a friend of
mine. Doug, do you want to introduce yourself? I’m Doug Madenford, fellow
YouTuber. and we’re talking today about the Pennsylvania Dutch so we’re in
Pennsylvania right now, I’m visiting my parents and I had the opportunity to be
able to talk to Doug about the Pennsylvania Dutch which I feel like a
lot of people are interested in and a lot of you are probably interested in so
Doug if you can talk to us a little bit about what the Pennsylvania Dutch means.
absolutely. so when we say the term Pennsylvania Dutch it’s one umbrella
term for our culture which is made up of a lot of different groups underneath it
and of course the one that’s probably the most famous is the Amish which I
think we’re gonna discuss in depth today but I want everybody know that there’s
it’s not just the Amish so when you say Pennsylvania Dutch you’re also talking
about groups like other religious groups like the Mennonites the old order
Mennonites the dung Kurds the River Brethren and then the other major two
groups that fall underneath that would be the what we call the non-sectarian
Pennsylvania Dutch those would be people that aren’t Amish or plain like me I’m
not Amish that settled in southeastern
Pennsylvania in the 16 and 1700s from the Pfalz area of Germany and that also
had came from that cultural background not the same religious background but
the same cultural background and linguistic background so that mainly
were Lutheran and German Calvinists that came over as well so that’s Pennsylvania
Dutch as a whole but there are all these little groups underneath it so I think
people always mix that up they think when they hear Pennsylvania Dutch it’s just the
Amish but it’s not just the Amish they’re just one portion of that bigger
group. okay can you talk to me a little bit about like what differentiates them
like first of all how did they divide did they come over as a divided group or
so yeah the first groups that came over actually were the very first group were
Mennonites who were being persecuted back in Europe in the 1600s. 1683 was the
first group that came over and landed in Philadelphia because and why
Pennsylvania is a great story to William Penn the founder of our colony was out
of all the original colonies here in the East
Coast Pennsylvania was the only one that pretty much said we don’t care what
religion you are we’re tolerant come on over a lot of the other colonies didn’t
advertise that and Penn specifically went to the Rhine Valley and you know
said hey I got land for sale anybody want to come over? so the group came over the Mennonites that Mennonite group was the first group that came over and then
quickly after that other groups came like the Amish who were also being
persecuted quite heavily in Europe and then the non-sectarians like the
Lutherans and the other Protestant groups came not necessarily because the
religious persecution but because of just a better opportunity in life – own
land, economic prosperity, just to get a way out of the feudal system that was
still there in in Europe at the time. okay so then they came over here and and
how did they adapt to the way of life here. well, it was clean slate. I mean
1680s-1690s this was pretty much you know make up…make of it what you want
and the landscape and the geography of southeastern Pennsylvania was very
similar to the region of Germany where they were coming from so it was… it
almost felt like home. it looked like home they were easy to it was very easy
to start agriculture which is what most of them did. clear the land and start
growing and then self-subsistence and self-sustaining lifestyle was what it
did you know what they did throughout the that colonial era so it was easy and
they were allowed to practice whatever religion they wanted so they truly had a
lot of autonomy and freedom from you know definitely from what they were used
to back in the old country. okay. so you touched a little bit about the region
they came from you said like the Pfalz area, right? So the Rhineland-Palatinate, parts of Hesse, parts of present-day Baden-Württemberg
but that Rhine River Valley you know and the Amish and the Mennonite weren’t originally from that. they’re traditionally swiss. They started in Switzerland that’s where the religion started but in Switzerland they
were persecuted a lot of them were burned so they moved out of Switzerland
up the Rhine River into the area of the Palatinate there and they stayed
there for about one or two generations and then had the opportunity to come
over here but they were constantly being pushed and that’s why those groups came
over and that’s why the Amish and Mennonites
speak a little bit different variation of our language because of the Swiss
influence and those of you that know German would know that Swiss German and
regular German is different so there are some differences we can talk about that
later though. okay wow, I had no idea that they originated from Switzerland
that is completely…wow I had no idea that’s interesting.
so I was living in the Mainz area which is in Rhineland Pfalz and I’m very familiar
with Hessen and so on so some of my viewers in fact are from that area as
well so what people know about the Amish is that they don’t use any electricity
that they’re very plain. can you speak a little bit about why they don’t use
electricity? so I’m not by any standard an Amish expert but I I know some stuff
we’ll just say that, but I can direct you guys to the real experts out there and I
can give you some links to share with your viewers but every decision that the
Amish make is based on their interpretation of their religion so the
one thing we have to know is yes, they’re a culture but they’re a culture
based on their religion Ana Baptist groups they first off believe in adult
baptism that was one of the things that really got them in a lot of trouble in
Europe when when the church was created. so every decision they make is based off
of the decisions that their group because they settle into districts and
each district has a bishop that’s elected by the people. their
pastors are not seminary trained they’re brought up within the church and then
they’re elected to be leaders of the church and the bishops have the ability
to make decisions as to what their district is allowed because you can when
you just say Amish that’s a pretty broad broad stroke because underneath that
there are multiple groups there are Old Order Amish which are the most the
strictest of all no electricity no zippers nothing I mean they are really
like living in the 1600s but then there are more progressive and more liberal
Amish groups that will allow certain things if you own a business you’ll see
some Amish that have cell phones or their business will have electricity but
then their home won’t so it all depends you know where what group you’re among
and where you are here in Pennsylvania we have all of those groups we
old order we have more progressive we have more liberal but then you can
travel to Ohio or Wisconsin and find other groups that are you know are Amish
but maybe they practice a little bit differently or allow different things
because right now here in Pennsylvania it’s becoming more more
popular to see Amish that are you know they definitely won’t drive cars but
it’s been allowed for them to ride in somebody else’s car for transportation
purposes. they still have the horse and buggy but if they need to run to the
grocery store they can call somebody up and essentially it’s like Amish taxi
service right now. it’s quite popular for non Amish to make money and then they’ll
drive the Amish to the grocery store get the groceries drive them back but the
Amish will never physically drive the car. so it’s actually changing you know
as the years go on what they’re being allowed to do and what they’re not
allowed to do but it all comes down to what their bishop or what their church
leaders say in their district is allowed there’s there’s different you know rules
for each group okay that makes a lot of sense because I mean I grew up around
the Amish and I’ve noticed some different things we were driving around
Loganton which is just only like 20 minutes away from here and I saw like
these telephone booth sort of things they look like a little sheds that were
tucked away and I actually saw an Amish man who was on the phone in the
telephone booth and I was confused you know is he allowed to do that and so on
but I mean I guess this is you know as you’re saying they can adapt some of the
rules and especially to be able to I mean they have to be able to survive
they need to be able to make money and and in this part of Pennsylvania you’re
starting to see more and more of the younger Amish moving away from from
agriculture because a lot of the land is there’s not an opportunity for them to
have the land so they’re opening their own businesses whether it’s a carpentry
business or landscaping or construction and you know to run a business in 2018
you need to be able to communicate with the outside world so I think in that
respect you know that’s where these bishops are saying well you know if you
want to be successful or if you want to have this business you’re gonna have to
be able to use a telephone for example or have a computer at your work to help
you with whatever you need to do but once they leave that business and get
back into their home then it’s you know it’s like take that hat off and put the
other hat back on so I just think that’s a change of the
way the times are changing. right yeah do you mean do you have any
foresight on what you think it’ll change you know how much more those well the
one thing for sure is that the Amish are the fastest growing minority population
in the United States. their population doubles every 20 years Wow
they’d have large families right it makes sense so they’re not going
anywhere the thing I think we’ll see the most is that we will see them spread out
more right now there are Amish throughout
many states here in the United States and into Canada there’s some Amish
settlements in South America as well so whenever as they continue to grow and
the ability to get land becomes available I think they will just
continue moving and you know increasing in population so you know years ago if
you want to see Amish you had to come to Pennsylvania that’s not the case anymore
you know you can travel Ohio to Ontario to Iowa to Wisconsin and you will find
large Amish you know settlements and populations so I think that’s gonna be
the the directions they’re gonna go wherever land becomes available they’re
gonna move to okay Wow so can you talk to me a little bit about how they’re
educated I had always heard you know they stopped at eighth grade that
they’re in one-room schoolhouses and I find this all to be really interesting
but that is all that’s all true they the one thing that we have to
remember about the Amish is that in in their faith system they say that we are
not of this world but we are in it oh so you know that their mindset is that we
are here but we’re not part of it we’re doing our thing with the end goal
of course being salvation and going on to the New Jerusalem and you know beyond
so that’s why a lot of the things that they they don’t accept the outside world
because they’re not part of this world they don’t want to be part of this world
that’s why they dress the way that they do that’s why they make all the
decisions that they do or the vast majority of their decisions education is
the same way all Amish children boys and girls will attend a one-room schoolhouse
usually within walking distance of wherever they grew up so in each
district depending how big the district is there might be two or three school
houses maybe just one and it’s usually taught by a woman but it’s an Amish
woman and it’s a basic education starting in first grade and they go till
8th grade so seven years or eight years of education reading writing some basic
math and they’ll also learn a little bit of standard German for the purpose of
the Bible they use Luther’s Bible in standard German it’s always funny
because most Amish never speak standard German it’s but that’s the Bible they
use so when they go to worship service they will hear you know when there’s a
reading out of the Bible it’ll be in standard German so they get that little
bit of a basic education in that as well in the one-room schoolhouse that they
have a little bit of a better understanding in church but beyond that
the majority of the actual school lessons are instructed in both a mixture
of English and Pennsylvania Dutch and that depends where you are – it could
vary but its basic you know reading writing math you know the traditional
three r’s as we used to say right yeah okay and do they treat their male
students different from their female students are all together together it’s
all together all in the same room all age groups together so the younger kids
it’s sit up front the older kids are sitting towards the back just like it
used to be here seven years ago my grandparents both went to one-room
schoolhouses it was the exact same way boys and girls together young kids sat
in the front the older kids sat in the back and they the older children helped
the younger children it’s truly a community learning and that’s the one
big thing we have to remember the Amish Amish are a community and the community
works together to help each other okay you really hope frame it for me that
they’re you know they’re they’re not a part of the world they’re living within
it but they’re not part of it yeah that’s uh frames it was yeah so um
speaking of schools our taxes go toward you know public schooling and a whole
bunch of other things but so if they’re not using our school system you know and
they’ve just got this whole different way of living do they pay taxes so this
could vary from state to state I can’t speak for sure about how it is in like
Wisconsin do I know here in Pennsylvania at least the Amish pay taxes I think
that’s a common myth that they don’t owe they’re rich they don’t pay taxes they
pay property taxes cuz they own land they have to and they pay other federal
and local taxes – like what’s collected for roads and so forth but
they don’t pay Social Security tax because of that they don’t get Social
Security so when they get to you know 65 they are not getting that monthly check
from the government because they didn’t pay into the system so that’s one thing
they don’t pay but all other local and state taxes they are completely you know
have to pay sales tax county tax Township tax property taxes so yeah but
like for example property taxes drive public education in Pennsylvania they’re
paying that and then not getting anything for right right that’s just
that’s just the system okay okay and how when you were talking about taxes it
made me think of health care so you may have their own doctors do they use ours
that’s that’s another thing I think is changing more and more years ago the the
Amish would not really participate in our tradition in our health care system
but that’s changing however they don’t have health insurance so or most of them
don’t again it’s the community pays so if if a member of the community gets
really sick let’s say they get cancer and needs treatment the community will
come together to pay for that treatment now they’ll go and we’re seeing more and
more Amish now going to our hospitals and to our doctors clinics and getting
service you know getting getting medical attention
that’s a newer concept I think for for a lot of us to see who aren’t Amish that
we’re seeing you know Amish in in a clinic or in a hospital but again that’s
all funded out-of-pocket by the community by the Amish community and I
don’t know where that’s gonna go you know traditionally the Amish were very
big on traditional medicine so you know using plants and herbs and using
traditional remedies when you got sick which had its pluses and it’s minuses
and sometimes they work a lot of times they they might not so you know I don’t
think the Amish don’t vaccinate their children so there’s certain things that
they do when they don’t allow okay you know if it’s if it’s a life needing
emergency operation then it’s usually yeah absolutely do it but certain things
then aren’t allowed within the key – okay so that now I understand why I
went to an Amish grocery store the other day and I saw these bags of little
treats for sale and it said you know this will help someone suffering from
leukemia I said that was maybe like the community coming together to try to
raise money and I mean there are a lot of there are a lot of plants and herbs
that do have medicinal purposes you know that a lot of those ideas were brought
from from Europe in the 1600s and they’re continuing that use for a lot of
Americans although it’s becoming popular again so it’s like cyclical in that
sense but yeah the Amish still used a lot of those traditional medicines as
well but they are becoming more and more accepting of modern medicine I guess we
could say okay one of the things that draws back is that for those who that
aren’t American watching this our healthcare system is rather expensive
and that is naturally a hindrance for some of them and you need a certain
operation it cost $100,000 which it might you know that community might not
have that money so things when I saw leukemia they’re gonna be able to make
enough money right right right that’s fascinating okay so do they find
hunting is like a really popular thing here yeah absolutely they hunt and fish
and they’re required to follow all the same laws that we who are an Amish they
have to buy a hunting license etc yeah absolutely hunting is a huge part of
their culture as well you know for mainly for the meat I mean they do it
for the real reasons I guess you could say fishing as well in fact I was I
belong to a hunting camp here in central Pennsylvania and I walked past three
Amish that were hunting really close to my tree stand this year that I had to
tell them – hey no yeah they do hunt yeah and they own guns absolutely okay
great and kind of along this idea of using my arms how do they feel about
military service so like if there was a draft or you know how does that work
well one of the one of the main tenants of the Amish faith and of all of the
sectarian groups is that they are pacifists right that was one of the
reason that was another reason that got them in trouble back in Europe because
they refused to fight in fact small side note the Amish have
men have beards when they’re married they start growing a beard but they
never grow a mustache never right and there’s a reason for that and it’s kind
of a cool little tidbit in history so when the Amish were first created in
that church was first created in the 1600s the sign of a soldier at that time
period was to have a mustache when you look at images in that history those you
know once you got into the military then you usually grew you grew a mustache
that was their direct saying no we will we won’t grow moustache and that’s why
they don’t grow a Mustang that snot the case anymore you know young girl must
actually be in the army but it was the prevailing sentiment at the time Wow so
they oh yeah it is symbolic fascinating I just thought maybe they didn’t want to
have less hair no yeah maybe two but there is it there is an underlying
reason for it wow that’s really a nursing okay so so if you know we have I
forget what it’s called but the thing that you have to sign when you’re a male
at age 18 oh yeah so they wouldn’t sign that yeah no
absolutely not okay okay um what are their clothes like so you talk to
especially about them hunting I’m very curious what they wear hunting they wear
their normal clothes and then just put an orange vest over top of it usually so
their clothing is plain plain colors and that has to set speaks to their faith
and it also is a symbol showing you that they aren’t part of normal society black
is a traditional collar and I’m sure you’ve seen pictures of them women wear
dresses and they can get a little more colorful but it’s usually a plain color
it’s not like a floral print or something like that when they go to
church on a Sunday everything is just black and white no colors other than
that for the men black pants black coat white shirt no tie anything like that
very plain again and then it also depends like on how how conservative or
how liberal your group is the really really ultra conservative ultra-orthodox
Amish won’t even use buttons okay I’ll use everything is clothes with pins like
straight pins right which is yeah crazy for us to think about know that a button
was a sign of wealth in the 16th 1700s it was a sign of the outward world so
they didn’t want that so they used pins which you can’t see okay it’s tucked
into the clothes but more liberal Amish you will see them have buttons so it
just depends again which group you’re in but for the most part no
matter how liberal or how progressive their dress is much plainer than what we
have you know what we would wear today okay and the women they always have
their hair up they almost always have their hair cut yeah and and a head
covering of some kind just like the mat men always have a hat on right now I
don’t they’re maybe there’s something biblical for that I don’t know I just
know that that’s always been part of their faith practice what kind of
holidays do they celebrate or they celebrate I mean the majority of their
their year is based on the religious year so they’ll celebrate all of the
major Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter of course I mean those are
major holidays in their in their faith but things like the fourth of July right
or Memorial Day or Labor Day they’re not celebrating those like we would
Halloween really not so much either the next day after Halloween All Saints Day
is a much more important day for the Amish having the you know the Christian
background principles to it and then they celebrate things like Ascension Day
which most even most Christian Americans don’t necessarily celebrate but they do
that’s a day that they won’t work that’s a day that is a family gathering day so
they’re there their calendar of holidays follows the Christian calendar more than
anything else okay but at Christmas they’ll like there will exchange gifts
and and you know maybe not on the same scale that we do but there I mean they
celebrate Christmas of course you know Christian holiday all right so you
mentioned earlier that the men will have beers of their Marines which makes me
wonder like how do they go about dating in in such a community like this well
it’s always understood that you marry within the group but and again this
might vary from group to group I’ve never heard too much of like arranged
marriages or anything like that so you know as a boy going to the one-room
schoolhouse hopefully there’s a girl there that catches your eye but as far
as like being forced to date a certain girl or a certain boy that necessarily
it might happen in some places but I don’t think that’s the norm by any
stretch of the imagination you are free to choose whoever you want to date or
marry but the expectation is that you marry within the church or if you’re
gonna marry with you know from outside of the church whoever you marry joins
the faith because you can’t you can’t have a divided house right so
if you choose to marry someone outside the faith and they don’t convert then
you have to leave Wow okay and you mentioned leaving what does that
yeah so leaving means leaving completely another popular thing among non Amish is
when they hear about the Amish so shunning oh we heard you shun people
well they do you know if you if you break an infraction within the faith or
if you’re deemed to have done stuff that is wrong the the community and the
leadership of the church have the right to shun you from the group and when they
shun you you are gone and you are not allowed to have any contact with the
group including your family now if your family chooses to maintain contact they
could get in trouble for doing that but I know that there are some that will
like still try to maintain some kind of contact maybe through letters in the
mail but physically seeing each other is extremely difficult and it’s it’s
forbidden because you’ve broken that covenant with the faith therefore you
are no longer part of that faith and it’s it’s a clear divide and there are a
lot of Amish and I say a lot but there are many Amish that decide they leave
they’re gonna leave and this isn’t the life for me it’s a choice to be Amish
you eventually get to a point in your faith and in your in your life where you
have to make a decision that’s the whole room spring I’ll come back to that yeah
but that’s the thing like getting dating and marrying I mean it’s that’s a huge
decision because you have to mean it has ramifications if you decide to go a
different path than what you’re supposed to go okay and with getting married are
there any special wedding traditions I think one of the neatest things about I
mean it’s a typical wedding the exchange rings but in in American culture you
know the father walks the bride down the aisle and there’s always kind of this
sense of like giving the girl away where the girl does it it almost comes looks
like the girl doesn’t have a say like yes I’m I’m giving you permission to
marry my daughter but in the Amish faith I think this is really neat the the the
groom and the bride walk down the aisle together at the beginning of this
servus then and I think that shows a little bit about how the how the Amish
value both genders to women in the church and in in life have a huge role
and symbolically to see them both walk down and that the dad isn’t giving the
girl away I think that’s a that’s a huge statement yeah to say and I don’t know
if that was a tradition that they brought over from the old world
I would probably um you know because almost everything they do is based off
of that but I thought always that you know as far as the wedding ceremony goes
I think that’s a huge difference yeah but it’s a neat difference very I mean
it’s like they’re coming into the man just take a gather absolutely this is a
decision that we’re making together and we’re equal in it right okay um so none
to put a damper on there is there any such thing as divorce yeah in the Amish
community it’s not easy and again it depends on the group that you’re in if
it’s a more conservative Orthodox group it’s extremely difficult in some of the
more liberal and progressive ones you can get a divorce in instances of like
domestic abuse which happens I mean that’s the Amish aren’t completely
perfect you know I think a lot of people give them that that have that idea in
their head although saintly people know I mean they’re they’re bad Amish people
to you you can file for a divorce that has to be granted through the
church through the church elders in most in most locations but yeah it happens it
doesn’t happen often right but it does it does happen so how do you know so
much about it you talked a little bit about it in the introduction so I grew
up in southeastern Pennsylvania the same region where a lot of these groups first
settled my family came over in the late 1600s early 1700s but we were in that
group of non-amish non Mennonites we were Lutheran’s that came over from the
Rhineland falls from hessin all different branches of my family and
settled here in colonial Pennsylvania and we continued speaking our language
and we have for 300 years so we’re in this we’re in that umbrella group so
just because of my background and then my academic background and so my
research I’ve you know done a lot of studying among the Amish of the Amish we
speak the same language and just having contact with them and reading you know a
lot because it is that easy you can’t just walk into an
Amish community say hey you don’t ask like ask the questions that you’re
asking me most Amish would never want to talk about these things right for a lot
of reasons you know coming back to that we’re not of this place you know and so
I think my one of my ends though with the Amish is I can speak their language
and if I go into one of their stores and I start speaking in pensive a that’s all
it’s all of a sudden like one of the barriers has been knocked down and there
are a lot more apt to speak to me because I am speaking their own language
and maybe I don’t come in looking like just a normal tourist hey can I take a
picture of your kid which some people try to do which really annoys me but
yeah I think that’s that’s one of the reasons that I’ve learned a lot about
this topic and we share some we share cultural we don’t share religious
beliefs but we share cultural linguistic beliefs so okay and sorry you brought up
the picture thing with I didn’t even think to ask so I’ve always heard the
Amish don’t like to be photographed or videotaped other myth oh no that common
myth no it’s it’s not that they think that the the camera is gonna steal your
soul it has to do with one of the commandments as thou shalt not make a
graven image so creating an image in traditional faith was is against the
commandments okay that’s why they don’t want it done ah so even drawing so well
again I think it all depends what group you’re in okay because folk art is I
mean the Amish practice full cart when you go into if you ever get the chance
to go into their homes if it’s not a super super ultra group Orthodox group I
mean you will see stuff on their walls it’s not like their houses are
completely bare but you’re not gonna see a wall of family portraits that you
won’t see okay um so yeah that that’s the main idea behind taking pictures
also I think they see it as an invasion of their privacy too right I mean right
yeah I mean they make a it’s I mean I think it’s well known I guess maybe if
you’re you’ve never seen the Amish before but I mean I’ve been told my
whole life you know they don’t like having their photo taken right and and
that you know it’s it’s not that the cameras gonna steal their soul maybe
there’s some homage to do believe that but I think is a general statement it
all goes back to that thou shalt not make a graven
right so okay that’s I think that’s the basis of it well I think it’s great that
you are able to I mean like you said they’re very closed off you know I
wouldn’t be able to interview an Amish you know man or woman the way I’m
interviewing you and you’re able to explain a bit about their culture and
kind of bridge that I try to that gap there it’s very I think as long as we
can tear down a lot of the myths that are out there that’s important I mean in
the end they’re still there humans just like us they have all the same emotions
that we do they just view the world and go about life differently than us all right Doug well thank you so much
for talking to me it was all mine it’s great I mean I learned a lot I thought I
knew a little bit about the Amish but you you have really and there’s there’s
tons of stuff online if you want to learn more and I’ll make sure you guys
get the links for it and Doug mentioned he’s on YouTube as well where he has a
channel and he shares a lot about the language and your whole cultural stuff
and culture that’s not Amish that’s Pennsylvania Dutch which for the people
living in the follows and Hessen in the Rhine Valley you’ll see a lot of
similarities so I’ll link his channel to the description below make sure that you
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  1. As a registered nurse in Ohio I've taken care of many Amish women mostly giving birth and it was quite a learning experience for me when I first encountered a lady she will came in way too early and was losing her baby and it was like 18 weeks or something and she never cried. That really stumped me she never showed any emotions and her husband was like odd let's just say that Odd as soon as the baby was born we let we asked her if she wanted to see it and she said no and then the dad went and made arrangements with the doctor as to what he wanted done with the baby. So we cleaned mom up and got her comfortable and we were out in the hallway during charting and the husband came back and I saw him lay back in bed with his wife and normally we would like to say no you can't do that but because of the situation I let it go. So I came back in about 20 minutes to give her some pain medication and he was having sex with her and I was like oh oh my gosh. I had to tell him that that was the way no way don't be doing that because she is just open for infection right now and that is why we ask that you wait 6 weeks after a baby is born to not have sexual intercourse because you can cause the woman to become so infected that she could lose her uterus. He said he just kept going I was like oh my gosh I went out and got the doctor and let her deal with it oh Lord. Yeah that was my first experience with but since I've taken care of many of their children with cancer I switch to Pediatrics.oh she had layers of clothes all kept together with pins. Getting her undressed quick was a chore.

  2. This was really cool! Intresting discussion and well executed. I would have loved to also sit in that table. Clad you are making more videos with this guy and on this topic.
    That thing you discussed about the wedding – the bride and groom walking to the altar together. It is quite common in Finland (and maybe other nordic countries as well). Maybe it does derive from most of us being lutheran. Never thought it before. Anyways, one of my favourite things about our weddings. Although, to be fair, fair amount of brides are also walked down the aisle by their father. At least now a days. I just always found it a bit disturbing for the exact reasons you discussed on the video. As a woman, I don't want to be handed over as property, but to make that desicion for myself.

  3. If I were God I will only choose the amish people cause they are the most peacefull and forgiving people in the world like Jesus did.

  4. There have been Amish here in Iowa for over 100 years, and the Amish in Iowa go to one room school houses that are run by the state of Iowa, actually the local public school system and the teachers are state of Iowa certified.

  5. The Amish are a Sect, like religion in generall, and Sects in Particular, their Way of Education and Living is to "Force" their Children in the Same way of Life…. To made it harmless by saying "They are a Communitie which works together" isnt the proper Way of Dealing with Religion and Fanatic Believing(caused by Religion in first place) at all. Its Dangerous to "believe" in anything else than Fact, espacially if these "believes" force People in the Way of the same believes while they cant chose for them self and arent allowed to chose at all…..

  6. Thank you for this video. My family is descended from the Mennonites and our family history book on my father’s side talks of us coming from Switzerland and later migrating to the Rhine-Palatinate region. We set sail in 1749 and landed in Pennsylvania after purchasing land from William Penn. my family left the Mennonite community when my Great-Great Grandfather decides he wanted to fight in the Civil War.

  7. My Amish ancestors came from a little principality called Montbeliard, which was part of Germany until the Napoleonic wars, then became part of France. They spoke a dialect similar to that of the Swartzwald region.

  8. The Amish hat thing could come from Judaism, specifically the Talmud.

    Jewish men are required to wear a hat, hence the reason many wear yarmulkas (Yiddish) or kipahs (Hebrew) meaning, literally, "hat". The same goes for Islam. As for the reason, the Talmud states, "Cover your head in order that the fear of heaven may be upon you."

    The source of wearing Kipah or any other head-cover is found in the Gemara in Masechet Kiddushin. There it is written that wearing Kipah is a virtue of piety. That way, a person expresses that “God, Shekhina (Presence of God), dwells above my head”.

    Just a guess though.

  9. Are those insects that I hear? Ugh, you just made Germany look so much better to me today: ) My (German) husband and I spent our honeymoon on the East Coast (DC!) and visited PA where he got eaten by insects – he looked like he had measles. Likewise here in Germany I get eaten by horseflies and fire ants every Summer (and ticks, but they don't discriminate) as if they seek me out cuz I'm a foreigner. It's uncanny and no one believes me that fire ants are a major pest here.

  10. On one side I'm glad to find this video, on the other side it reminds me to one of the things I'm ashamed about my self. In the early 90th my wife and I visited the Amish area. Dump as a tourist and fascinated from this folks that choose a Lifestyle I could not understand, I put out my camera and do what a dump tourist did.
    As I have to change the film (jepp early 90th no Digital Cameras), I found out that I have to by a film because their was no one left. In the time it takes to drive to the next shop, I used my brain and asked myself how I would feel, if folks came to picture me like an animale in the zoo. I decided to stop the photo-shoot and instead of that go to a stand and by a very nice handmade patchwork blanket, that my wife has spotted.

  11. An outstanding interview. Doug certainly is a tremendous presenter and Kelly was super asking particular questions. The interview was unbiased and non-theatrical, a rarity in thee daays.

  12. I'm in my mid sixties and Mennonite and live in a combined Mennonite, Amish area. As far as I know we always used modern DR's When I needed surgery in the 1990s our church paid our personal bills for the year it took me recover and go back to work. We did sign up for the draft but were conscientious objectors My brother inlaw was drafted during the Korean war and worked as a medic. If you wanted to see him mad tell him that Mennonites were cowards for not fighting. My father was drafted but hadn't joined the church but was in Austria during the war. The Mennonite church is growing in Africa too along with south America. One of the largest Amish ,Mennonite communities is in Brazil because farm land is cheap. PS Do you know what the rift was that split the Amish From the Mennonite church?

  13. This video is so interesting! Where I come from in Ohio there are many communities of Pennsylvania Deustch/German speakers. When my friends ask about my hometown I tell them about the beautiful scenery and the kind PG speaking peoples. I learned a lot about the communities near my home, but if my friends have questions now I can direct them to this video for more information!

  14. I heard a news report that stated the Amish have many medical problems due to the narrow gene pool. This causes many illnesses that are addressed by local hospitals and the bills way exceed anything the Amish can pay. The hospital swallows that bill.

    Based on what I heard from this guy it seems they are being subsidized by society to have their way of life.

  15. Its actually the Native Americans who believe being photographed will steal their souls. My grandmother was Cherokee Indian, so I heard this information first hand.

  16. A thing to remember, is that aside from religion, up until a century ago, with the advent of cars and electricity, EVERYBODY had essentially the SAME lifestyle.

    My GrandFather was born in1895, and his reminiscences about his boyhood were in no way different from Amish.

  17. My gmom is German n Baptist.we took alot of them to our shore house.they sure new alot about baseball.the pa dutch are really great ppl from what I see.

  18. Lutheran theology, aside from the original German language, was much closer to the Anglican (Episcopalian) church than the Amish church.

  19. Just came across this. Dough is correct in the history but has some things mixed up on the different sectors of the faith. I am a descendant of the person that got the invite from William Penn to come to Pa.. For information on this Google Alexander Mack. Doug was correct that it started in the Rhine region and ended in or near Philadelphia, actually in Quakertown, about 50 north of Philly. My Grandma was a Mack and she was a great Granddaughter of Alexander Mack. Now here is the twist, Mack was a pietistic Schwarzenau Brethren, not a Mennonite or Amish. His friend that came with him Conrad Beissel founded a settlement in Ephrata Pa. called the Cloisters.

  20. They have large communities of Amish in Kansas as well.

    I've often thought their clothing is prideful. It draws attention to them. Which is the opposite of what I thought they wanted.

  21. I thought Doug's insights were quite accurate for the most part. Being a former member in both the Old Order Amish and Old Order Mennonites for many years (30+) I have an insiders viewpoint and may differ with him on a few points. But overall he did a great job. I also learned to speak the Pennsylvanisch Deutsch fluently and read the old German print both for the Bible (Luther translation) history, doctrinal and songbooks. I also learned to sing the slow tunes, which I still love today and occasionally sing to keep in practice. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

  22. I'm Buddhist but i greatly respect the Amish. All my life… no drinking, no gambling, no sleeping around…. etc. Their dedication to their religion….. is on another level.

  23. Well I must say I began the video as a sceptic but by the end I was very impressed Doug is pretty much an expert! The only thing I would disagree on is the exchanging of rings in marriage I grew up Amish in Indiana and have friends from many other states that are or were Amish and I’ve never seen or heard of rings in marriage….great video!

  24. The Amish and Mennonites are cruel puppy mill operators. They fuel the pet store flesh peddlers. The Amish are not nice – they are a cult.

  25. The christian thought as he says, we are not of this World but lived in this World, That is standard of Christ's teaching. All Christians believe this if they follow the teachings of Christ.
    Also.seems they, the Amish read the Standard Bible, I didn't hear different in this conversation. I was over joyed to learn of their beliefs and to know we are the same or one in thought.
    Another thought is they, or some of the Amish seem to go into the world to work or use the modern devices depending on the rules of their district. They then , upon returning home revert back to the way not of this world. Very interesting to learn their ways.

  26. I want to live a Amish life for a while just to grasp knowledge about their culture and their hard work ethics. Is there any Amish community who hires people seasonally out from their community. I want to live that lifestyle man. I’m dead serious.

  27. The amish speak the exact same dialect as the donauschwaben of which I am a descendant. My grandparents and my dad spoke it.

  28. I really wouldn't call Luther's German "standard German" nowadays, though…

    And in Germany, it is usually the case that bride and groom walk together down the isle, and only recently, due to TV shows etc. from the USA, that women want it differently, like Amercians do it. I HATE that. I hate the inequality. A woman is NOT a man's property to be given over to the next man. And it is not how we used to do it in Germany, at least for decades. I wish (German) women would think a bit more before demanding to be given away…

  29. Sad to say, before seeing this I thought Pennsylvania Dutch was the same as Amish. Glad to say, I am always happy to reduce my ignorance.
    Thank you for making me a bit less ignorant.

  30. My sons family will be going to their first amish wedding on Thursday, my grandbabies babysitters are amish and theyve kind of adopted my son and his family, the mother makes my granddaughter dresses all the time and for the wedding she made my lillie and mom each a dress for the wedding, my granddaughter just turned 3 and she speaks fluent Pennsylvania Dutch and sign, which is really cool and I'm very happy but when they came to Texas for a visit she just spoke Dutch, I was freaking clueless till the last two days of the visit and she started speaking English, I guess with time shes figured out Texas grandma just doesnt get it because now when I talk to her she speaks English.

  31. This is very interesting, thank y'all. We have some Amish in Mississippi which arrived maybe 30 years ago. They seem pretty modern, running restaurants, go to the mall, etc. Some folks can't always understand their speech well but everyone loves them. My family is Eastern Orthodox and I see a few similarities for example the wedding ceremony. Even some of their songs sound similar to the ancient Slavic chants in the Orthodox Church.

  32. It's kinda ironic that they use Luther's bible, while they don't really understand it perfectly, when Luther literally translated the Latin bible to ensure people would be able to read it easily, he wanted it translated, he just knew German so translated it to German

  33. One thing I am curious about (I figured that no one would have brought it up) but as we live in the 21 century and especially younger Amish are becoming more liberal, how is the Amish in respect to LGBTQ rights, are they accepting (there must be some Amish who are LGBTQ I would imagine) and if it is even in this day and age still frowned upon how do members of the LGBTQ Community who are Amish deal with their own sexuality? Are they excommunicated, or are there some LGBTQ Amish groups, I don't know, but I am curious. Merci vielmal!

  34. I saw this movie "Witness" once and I thought I knew everything about the Amish. Then I had the chance to visit an Amish Infocenter in Lancaster County where I listened to a guide and thought again, I finally knew everything.And now this expert Doug with his entertaining nature – wonder whether I know everything finally…

  35. Soo true…… I live in Ohio and live between BerlinHolmes county Amish communities and AdamsvilleZanesville communities. The families I know in the Adamsville area are stricter than the Holmes families, they can't have electric, even in their businesses, they have church every Sunday, and can't wear flashy colors(only browns, navy blues, and dark green), also they can't have bikes.

    The Holmes County families I know have electric at their businesses, not at home and usually have church every other Sunday and it is multiple communities together. They ride bikes everywhere and can wear clothes that are purple, teal, light blue , and sometimes dark pink.

    This does not reflect every Amish community, just the ones I know of.

  36. In our church, we don't celebrate Christmas or Easter, since both are pagan, not of Christian origin. Look it up!!!

  37. We live in an area with several old order Amish communities. I was able to attend a Q&A session featuring a Bishops son that left the order. He was very open about the community he left, the good and the not so good. I learned a lot about their dating, funerals, etc.

  38. My father was from PA Reading and Lancaster. He left because he wanted an education and to break away from farming. Whenever I have visited these areas in PA I speak with the local shop owners and ask if the know of any Steckels? There appears to be hundreds by that name. Sadly I never knew so many of my relatives except my father's two bothers and their families. I was able to trace several of his relatives through ancestry back to 1740. His very early relative came over on the Neptune and settled in the Cumberland Valley. He married, had 11 children and he and his eldest son fought in the Revolutionary War. Captain Gerlach Paul Flick. After the war he worked as a farmer/miller. Lived to 97 years 10 months. I always have a yearning to visit PA, such a beautiful place…thinking of moving there one day.

  39. I live in south-central Pennsylvania. Amish are 100% a CULT! They treat their animals about the same as their women – like property! Education only goes to the 8th grade, and doesn't include much science and ZERO critical thinking skills. They are great craftsman and tradesman, but are stuck in the 1700's, and it shows. If you leave their religion, your family disowns you and considers you as DEAD! The difference between a religion and cult, is how you are treated when you attempt to leave. You loose EVERYTHING if you leave The Order. The Amish also have an incredibly cruel record of Puppy Mills, and even worse, a recent study shows that almost 70% of Amish as children were sexually abused!!! Of course, it was all covered up. Women are treated like property and 2nd class citizens. But golly gee, they make great food and furniture, so they must be harmless, right? 99% of the population is CLUELESS as to how sinister and evil this cult is.

  40. Philadelphia still kind of holds true to that today , there's a house of worship for almost every religion and denomination of a religion in the world

  41. This was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! I was born outside of Philly (1962) and lived in Bucks County for 9 years of my life. The first time I got to the PA Dutch Country was in 2000…and I have been interested in this subject ever since. Thank you! So informative!!!!!!!!!

  42. Originally Swiss is not entirely correct , the religion began in Switzerland but the group that started it all were partly Swiss and also Alsatian Anabaptists (a prosecuted religion) . A part of both peoples within that group followed Jacob Ammann , they were eventually called the Amish .

  43. The Amish where I live are German. They arent aloud to put curtains on their windows. They dont use electric. Use generators. We also have Mennonites. I live in Ohio.

  44. All of my furnisher is Amish made. All solid wood and very good craftmen. Alot better then the furnisher stores. Very reasonably priced for what you get. Its like heirloom furnisher, we will leave to are daughter.

  45. The Amish pull all their money together and take care of each other. Very family oreinted. I have horse and buggies drive by my house everyday. We have several around here. There is a little school not to far from me. The Amish here speak German. They make furnisher, build houses, have bakeries, sell produce. They are all in theyre own business. They do not pay social security because they don't draw it. They take care of themselves. There church pays for the healthcare. A family pays the first 1000.00. Then the community pays the rest. They pull there money together under the church.

  46. In my area of PA the Amish can drive ( have a driver's license) ,own a tractor,skid steer, bulldozer, they just can't own a car. They even use solar power, generators and have running water in the house. Unfortunately , the community is dying out …..many are moving away .

  47. I remember when i was somewhere in ohio picking up a load from amish farm,the girl at the desk had such a natural smile i never seen before that i still think about it 5 years later…unlike todays girls that do your credit check before first date lol

  48. As far as signing up for selective service when you turn 18 in terms of the draft or whatever, I and my siblings all signed, but we were able to sign up to work in hospitals, or construction jobs, etc… Nothing that required carrying a weapon or killing etc…

  49. Amish do not exchange rings at the wedding either. Jewelry of any sort, including wedding rings are strictly forbidden.

  50. Here in Wisconsin they are so interred so they posted flyers to get some of us English to breed their daughters for $500.00 what a deal sex and if you got the girl pregnant you got five hundred bucks cool

  51. My family comes from Höchstenbeck Germany that's from 1740 when my ancestor Röhrich came to New York.

  52. Forgive me if my question comes out as ignorance or just plain stupidity. Yet, as a foreigner, I wonder why they were and are still called the Pennsylvania 'Dutch instead of Pennsylvania 'German' since they were basically of german ancestry and came from Germany? Thanx.

  53. In this area of Pa , Amish use medical assistance.. They also collect social security disability for their chronically sick children. Many children here have genetic diseases .

  54. where in the world did you hear that the Amish think that they're sold the stolen by a camera? That is surely a tribal South American thing that was mentioned in books by people like Jim Elliott admissionaries from that era of the '50s and '60s. never in my life have I heard that attributed to the Amish.

  55. In a thirty-minute video, he never adequately explains why the Amish choose to live in a 19th century (or earlier) style of existence. Without understanding the reasons, the Amish way of life makes no sense. At the risk of over-simplifying, the Amish view common 20th-21st century life as a worship of technology, in which western society covets and worships material goods and the comforts they provide. To the Amish, this is essentially idolatry. Worshiping money is also considered idolatry. To the Amish way of thinking, people have replaced God with money, technology, and material goods. While I do not agree that God and these other things are mutually exclusive, I understand the Amish logic. Doug says nothing about the logic, so the viewer does not learn why they live the way they do.

  56. Amish use their church to fund their mortgages for their homes. They pay the mortgage to their church versus a traditional bank.

  57. Great video, but Doug makes a few incorrect statements about the Amish: SOME Amish don't vaccinate their children. I was raised in the Amish community received immunizations as a child, as did my cousins and friends. Also, the men absolutely DO resister with the Selective Service System at age 18. The women also wear colors other than black & white at church, and the more conservatives use hooks & eyes, not just straight pins. As far as holidays go, All Saints Day does not exist on their calendar, and many do celebrate Memorial Day, 4th of July, and Labor Day now. Also, they don't wear wedding rings, so there is no exchange of rings at the wedding ceremony, and divorce is absolutely forbidden.

  58. Why would Amish trust "English" doctors? Why would they use doctors who have been caught "diagnosing" false cancer and using chemo as a fake cure?

  59. The Amish learn English when they start school, 1st grade. The family speaks PennDutch all the time, except when we/English come to visit. Also, you said they pay Property taxes, but do they pay School Taxes? My property tax is only $600 yr, but School tax is $1400 year.

  60. What's interesting is that I have the same German ancestry, but I'm not Amish. Family was Swiss, moved to the Rhine married some French, than moved to PA.

  61. Kind of surprised about the Amish not minding being videoed.
    Viggo Mortensen when he appeared in his first film "Witness" (In a small role). Talked about the Amish not liking to be photographed. although he did say they were very friendly. Then again it was 1984.

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